In 1975, a twenty-three4 year old performance artist and amateur curator hosted his very first group show in an abandoned building in Tribeca. Entitled “Lives”, this show would the first step in the eventual building of a New York City empire for the young Jeffrey Deitch. As Deitch prepares for his transplant to the Los Angeles MOCA, art writer Carlo McCormick has sat down for a hour long discussion regarding New York’s art scene in the ’70s, the rise of art consumerism in the ’80s, Swoon and the street art of the aughts, to current state of art in Los Angeles. Recorded in front of a live audience at the BAS apexart show, the interview can be listened to here.